Versailles recap: episode eight - from la petite mort to une grande UHGGH. Heres a thought: what is your view to Claudine? He is always the king, while Philippe gives his emotions (somewhat) free rein. He certainly is darker, more angry and violent than he was in real life. Marchal, his shirt now stained with his wound, stumbles into the antechamber, to Bontemps and says: Listen to me. And in 1671 during Louis three day visit to the Prince de Conds Chteau de Chantilly, the Master of Festivities and Pleasures Franois Vatel killed himself over the late delivery of fish, and Louis was quickly hustled away (as shown in the wonderful 2000 Gerard Depardieu movie, Vatel)), So we see Claudine striding to the bedchamber but her way is barred. Finally, did the male medicin drink the vial of poison accidentally or on purpose? Would you villify a slave because he hated his master or ran away simply because slavery was accepted at that time and slaves (much like women, little difference there) were considered nothing more than the property of their masters to do with as they please (again, just as a woman was to her husband)? The historical notes you added were my favourite of all, I love knowing whats accurately portrayed and for the parts that were tweaked, what the actual history was. You can read more about Henriettas death here. Louis finally nods to the guards, the pikes are uncrossed and Philippe takes a breath and walks out without a backwards glance.The Chevalier gives him a few feet head start, then strolls after him, hands behind his back, not looking at Louis, not bowing. She was merely being used by the man she was in love with.
What killed Marie Therese in Versailles? - Daily Justnow Anne, Hi Jules Hell, HIS WIFE is shagging his brother. This doesnt do good for her position, unloved by her husband and no one would stand at her side, should French and English go to war. Back outside, to a view of Versailles under construction (I love these pre-glory shots!) My biggest problem with Henriette/Louis is that I find it highly doubtful that Louis would have sex with her. Louis. Point 3: Good question, which is the greater sin? I know historically Philippe did leave Versailles for a time, but season two Louis without Philippe will be interesting because while Louis takes shots at him every chance he gets, at the end of the day Philippe is the only true person around him besides Bontemps. She had always been painfully thin and Louis once tactlessly referred to her as the bones of the Holy Innocents. Historically, poison was definitely suspected in Henriette's death and briefly, here's how it went down: It was 1670 and Henriette was pissed off she couldn't be with Louis at Versailles, and of course Monsieur knew this, so he ordered her to accompany him to Saint Cloud. Philippe is most definitely not the victim in his marriage. I am a true friend of the king. but Louis knows. The camera pans around him and yet still, not one muscle is out of place, not one twitch of emotion. And Marchal sees this too, his eyes flicking down to focus on them, then showing us aflashback of the dying girl, Charlotte de Parthanay, whom he held in his arms in Episode Three, where she says she saw angels. Rohan took him riding. Then he screams out: CALL THE GUARD!. Henriette gasps, crying and in pain. Eww. Henriette wanted to go!). Ive said this before in comments. Philippe was the one in strident dissent! What the king wants, the king gets. It is Louis who victimises Philippe and he does it in every way he can think of. Then he says I pay you to spy on others, not on me. . Queen Marie-Thrse noted that everyone was talking about Henriettes death and the manner of it. Thank you for the recaps, I am with you on all things you write about Monsieur Marchal, he is everything! It INFURIATED Louis), In the show Philippe tries time and again to offer his support and love, but is constantly betrayed or rejected (this happened with the historical figures, too.. The first one we ever played in, says Philippe. The marriage was doomed from the start, because Henriette was already in love with Louis, it seems. You died of a cold, or a simple infection or someone sneezing on you. Now she is in a marriage that will never give her any joy with a man she does not love and she should risk displeasing her lover, the king, by rejecting him? but the show never uses his name, referring to him only as his title of Chevalier, probably to avoid confusion . #JesusTakeTheWheel What a scene. Yes, it was the thinking of that time but wouldnt that make her a victim of circumstances, rather to be pitied than villified? Philippe looks up to Louis with wet puppy eyes, Louis looks at Philippe, his all flinty and hard. Absolutely enjoyed your recap of the finale. The king himself suspected that Henrietta might have been poisoned and ordered an autopsy to be carried out. Sorry to jar you There are just some things I couldnt overlook, and I admit I was looking at Henriettes character so closely, to see if the screenwriters would sweeten her up from her historical figure. I love this show <3. We are shown much more of Philippes inner mind and his relationship to Louis than anyone else. ! Louis is stunned: Why are you casting all this rage at me? Philippe: Because you deserve it. Yes, of course its common knowledge that Louis is shagging Henriette. Coming from the quills of noted showrunners David Wolstencroft and Simon Mirren, both known for gripping series with a conspiratorial bent (i.e. After their conversation about stealing Philippes glory and the fact that Louis never liked sharing. We found an old building a sorry shack made of stone and moss. We are NOT touching her! Philippe finally says. Her confessor, however, urged her to accuse no one but to make her death an offering to God. Whats wrong? The two Ms still fight, and Louis approaches, holding the poker. It felt like if the whole world came running for us his voice thickens with emotion, we might fend off all who would take us ill. He finally looks up, at Louis. I know this coming years later, but to Theresa THANK YOU SO MUCH. and Nine. UGH. Mainly wanted to know about Chevalier after last weeks tearful declaration of love. I think it would be naive of us to assume that was the first (or only) time that happened. Since the first stone was laid in this expansion. In one of the episodes did we see Clermont messing with the doctors box of bottles.. Louis stares out the window in the antechamber, servants bring in food, but Marchal suspects poisoning and sends it back until its safety can be confirmed. The only protection offered is by Louis. Two steps behind him, as protocol dictates, is the Chevalier. It is so interesting to watch, given a discussion I had on Twitter earlier with some fellow fans. They are singing. Minor detail maybe, but not sure if that doesnt change the meaning of the next bit somewhat? Then he looks to Rohans hand tapping on the stone, decorated with a ring and the penny drops. Grrrr well Im not writing all that over again. I neglected to include the phrase in my opinion. I just wanted to tell you that I enjoy your reviews and will keep reading them through saison 2. Anne, Hi Jules haha that last message should have ended (I agree with you on all POINTS) not pints . Point 9: And again, who can blame her. But his treatment of her does make me think, rather than an actual person, the writers have quite subtly used her as a tool: she is the only person Philippe can take his frustrations out on he knows she loves Louis, and at that point Louis is still very much in love with her Philippe knows this, and punishes Louis the only way he can, but punishing his mistress. Either way, she's dead now. First off let me say that I absolutely love your reviews of Versailles, Ms. Jules. Now, seeing as sister-in-law wasnt even a thing then, this would be like actually shagging your sister. Who seeks to harm Henriette? Are there more shows you will review? Point 4: This point actually supports my own. Louvois and Marchal agree. Philippe and Louis have all the best monologues and the writing is brilliant, so in character. Such an angry king, and rightly so. But in context, with everything else going on in the show and with what Philippe deals with, I can understand why he did it. The camera hovers over the prone Henriette then pans up from the bed, like we are her soul being released from her body. No. And poor Philippe, who is distraught about his wife, its just another snub for him, isnt it? Her breath falters: Im scared. And the look on Louis and Philippes faces as they both lean in to comfort her *sobs* Philippe says gently: There is nothing to fear. Henriette: How do you know? Philippe: do you remember before you were born? I will also add that while Louis uses her to hurt Philippe in a very deliberate and calculated manner, I dont believe that is Henriettes intent at all. The three remaining lived to be 59, 49 and 68. Cassel leaves, then Montcourt walks away in the direction of Rohan who is discussing the Dauphins outing with a guard. Maybe that is where she got the poison she used on Fabien?, de Clermont went to a brothel to obtain poison and the love potion Lauren (Marchals henchwoman) tells him thats what she observed. And for those who love her. Philippe replies ominously: we are all of us in sickness here. Louis paranoia about his little brother is completely unfounded. Copyright 2023 History Today Ltd. Company no. Henriette answered Montagu with a shrug: she did not know. Except, when hes really angry and he rapes her. Nor can I hold her responsible for the fact that Louis uses her as a weapon against his brother. For her lot to improve, she could only hope for things to happen. The Queen rushes to her side as she collapses and Louis commands Bontemps to fetch his doctor. Claudine confirms poison and Louis huddles with his advisors: he wants to know if any English are at court. Thank you so much for your in depth response to my question. Nice one, Montcourt. Louis has not (even though yeah, okay, protocol). However, I do have a comment to make about your previous post that you believed that Louis loved Henriette, however I dont completely agree with you on this one. Her intent is not to hurt Philippe by sleeping with Louis, she simply doesnt care (and I dont blame her). Louis replies how else was I to keep you close. Versailles - Stagione 3 Episodio 10. Philippe has been by her side throughout this. My sources tell me that sadly, we will have to wait until March 2017 (Yes, NEXT YEAR!!!) Bontemps is a little freaked: Th-this is highly irregular, your Majesty. But the IDGAF expression on the Queens face is priceless. Philippe and Henriette were forced into a marriage with someone they didnt love or care for. IDK??? I respect the fact that two people can look at the same thing and see it from completely different angles and come away with completely different interpretations. ? Brilliant. My thoughts on that notorious Henrietta/Philippe scene in episode one is that it is entirely out-of-character for Philippe as we get to know him through the rest of the series. Such an angry outpouring from Louis, however, would have been out of character and no one else reported that he said any such thing. The next shot is of Montespan, entering her rooms, where she briefly cries then quickly gains control with a deep breath. Last scene, with Louis silent and stoic, standing on a stone that overlooks a glorious view of the forest with Versailles in the distance. Another scene now, with Rohan getting ready for his ride, and a servant girl by the name of Marie entering, demanding her money. He should be he has not given up either of their names for the part they played in his arrest. Learn how your comment data is processed. Louis orders the Versailles garden to be brought into Henriette's deathbed scene. Thank you, Amy! Louis staggers to his feet, Montcourt bleeding out on the floor, and he goes to Marchal, who has collapsed near the fireplace. Henriette of England is poisoned during her trip back from England. And remember you can also start at the beginning and read my reviews of EpisodesOne, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six,Seven,Eight. Its emotionless. BRILLIANT acting. They exchange silent looks for a moment, then Philippe says quietly, Do you remember our fort?. She doesnt want to speak of him. And before we can check ourselves and reach for the tissues, the priest murmurs, Amen and Philippes expression tightens, his head gently shaking before he steps away from the bed, leaving Louis there. It is always Louis for her. She actually says I could never love you well which does change the context somewhat. Having spent the first episode ripping their kit off at any opportunity, the court of Versailles has taken an oath of chastity. I cant always catch what is being said, particularly if it an aside or a whisper but I know you will tell me . King Louis XIV (George Blagden, left) and Henriette (Nomie Schmidt) arrive at "Versailles" in the Ovation series. I couldnt honestly say. He looks nervous and steps to Cassel, but Cassel rises and bows, along with everyone, as Louis enters. The sudden onset of Henriettes illness, the severe pain and the short time between the onset of her symptoms and her death suggested to her contemporaries that she had been poisoned. My greatest issue with Henriette is that she seems to lack any personality. for all of these. I cannot even imagine his reasoning for this, however I do know historically, Henriette desperately did want to be Queen of France, as did her mother want it, but at the time, she didnt have the pedigree, being the sister to Englands heir who wasnt even on the throne at the time. She could not affect change herself. There is your music.. But enough with this. And stunned when Louis says shes in his bedchamber.
Henriette and Philippe | Versailles Wiki | Fandom She is in such a tizzy that she barely gives her daughter, Sophie, the. Historically, poison was definitely suspected in Henriettes death and briefly, heres how it went down: It was 1670 and Henriette was pissed off she couldnt be with Louis at Versailles, and of course Monsieur knew this, so he ordered her to accompany him to Saint Cloud. The rape scene was repugnant and Phillipes actions were out of character with the Phillipe we saw in the rest of the season. *The only voice, your own. The moment stretches and Claudine shakes her head: she will not survive the poison. We see a shot of Philippe and Louis: Philippe is stunned and mega sad. Some were obviously written for massive impact. He is genuinely distraught, going to a collapsed Henriette on the floor while Louis is just standing there, seemingly frozen. Thank you (and I agree with you on all pints!!! But here, now? Versailles (TV Series 2015-2018) cast and crew credits, including actors, actresses, directors, writers and more. Henriette of England died in Saint-Cloud, not in Versailles. OMG!). Aaaaaand now. Louis approaches and she wakes. And then down by the promontory. Philippe had a relationship with the man he loved while Henriette continued to sleep with the man she loved. The death of someone so young was often attributed to poison. When we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away. I just wanna smash his smug ferret face. Dance. So that would perhaps put affair-with-sister-in-law a half tick closer to pardonable than homosexuality, which is wholly and completely condemned in the bible. Poisoned? Im merely suggesting you might save some time. Marchal persists, pointing out that Louvois always disagrees frequently and loudly with the Kings decisions. Bontemps wants to move her she cannot stay in the Kings bed. but Claudine says she cannot be moved. Let me know when the doctor arrives, Louis says, and leaves. So, he loves Henrietta as a friend, or simply to rival his brother? Even Louis at this stage is getting sick of it and announces he is going to war. Art. What to expect from the future? And there is also Dangerous Liaisons, but that is set in the 18th century. What shall I do! He is clearly upset. I must be poisoned! so Philippe ordered her dog to be fed the water. Colbert tries to push his point when Louis enters. Louis looks stunned too. Husbands have being raping their wives since time began from royalty down to peasants and it was classed as taking their marital rights . *Deeeeeep breath* Okay. Who poisoned Henriette in Versailles? (For the record, I am speaking strictly of the characters in this drama, not the historical characters). Rohan grabs her by the throat, saying it is not yet clear to him what she has done to earn her money, then demands she clean his room before leaving. I think that if he really loved Henriette that much, he wouldnt have gotten over her so quickly and easily, once they dangled a pretty, young blonde newcomer court lady to distract him. Marchal: The King once told me, he warned me quite clearly that his enemies would seek to destroy those closest to him. Trusting Philippe and involving him in the running of France would make him a better, stronger king. Louis asks Henriette to spy on her husband and she does not refuse. We see this SO MANY TIMES it becomes frustrating and sad. To spare his feelings? But Marchal continues calmly. I risked my life for your vanity, to rescue your wifes dowry. Louis: I acted for France because I AM FRANCE! Philippe remains stoic this time its Louis getting angry and we know why. We establish right from the start that she has no powershe was forced to marry a man she did not want because the king wants to keep her close. By this point, Louis had basically forgotten about and gotten over Henriette though this was much to her displeasure and chagrin. Also it will set Louis in a collision with Phillipe who did not want his wife to go to England for the negotiations. I thought so but no. Next time we see the painting in Ep 6 it has been moved to Henriettes room on her dressing table. Louis walks in and replies: because I ask him to do so. Ahhhhh-HA! I am waiting eagerly for the second season and I really hope to see you write about it then. Snake! poison, death and departures Versailles episode 10. Right away, I am feeling negative towards them both, and yes, judgey about Henriette. Louis turns in slow-mo, the expression on his face revealing nothing. Seems likely in the show (historically, this is not so the case at all). I look forward to reading your reviews on the next series, when it comes out. Kill him, then me, and blame it on him. ), (*WTF. forgot to add the bit about similar shows. In my opinion, I agree with Teresa. There are only two men in this court who move freely between the outside world and the Kings inner circle, but only one who has never raised a single voice against him. Bontemps is surprised: the Kings brother? NO, BONTEMPS. What? Similarly, perforation of the gall bladder may have led to an excess of bile leaking into the peritoneum causing the corruption and gangrene reported by her doctors. Bontemps moves her along. Henriette wasnt asking the king to hire a hit on Philippe. She finally asks. Today, speculation has attributed Henriettes death to intestinal blockage, ectopic pregnancy or tuberculosis affecting the peritoneum. By this stage both Henriette and Marie Thrse of Spain now knew what it felt like to be jilted and cast aside in your loved ones affections by another attractive court lady. And the person either asserts himself or is subjugated to the will of others. One witness observed that Henriette looked like a dressed corpse upon whom someone had put some rouge, while others thought she had death painted on her face. I have one comment / correction on what you wrote on Henriettes death scene. Good idea, he says breathlessly.
Versailles Altadefinizione Stagione 3 Episodio 10 Streaming Ita All of these things have the power to change a nation from within. Fashion. Henriette says a glorious death in battle would not displease him. The camera then cuts to Rohan, drinking and brooding in his room, absently stabbing the table with a knife as he glares at a portrait of Louis-as-a-boy (which is a gorgeous portrait and includes Philippe, apparently in a private collection and attributed to artist Charles Beaubrun. Do you even think hed allow her to end things? This was served to Henriette by her unsuspecting maid. did the male medicin drink the vial of poison accidentally or on purpose? He has poisoned all of them. Claudine confirms: We have no choice. I was more appalled at Louis seeming lack of concern for his brothers life. She could have answered with an honest yes but she evades the question. Neither of them showed much interest or affection for the other, both clearly preferring their lovers. And suddenly Marchal has his ah-HA moment. He is the villain if you are looking for one. Hi Jules, I must thank you for your detailed writeup of all ten episodes of Versailles. I think we see fairly good evidence in episode 7 that not only does Philippe support his brother, but that he is honestly frightened of the idea of running the country and has no desire to take his brothers place (his anger at being overlooked for the regency is more due to his hurt that no one supports him or takes him seriouslyhis experience all his life). . The Chevalier looks a little panicky or is it my imagination? Jules!
The Mysterious Death of Henriette, Duchesse d'Orlans Louis: you are grieving. Philippe shakes his head: I grieve alone. Louis swallows then says: You will marry again. Philippe interjects: I simply want to live. Louis: It is your duty. Philippe hisses: I have had my fill of duty. Previously, we see Masson offer the same bottle offered to Louis when the king is sick (and Masson reels off a list of ingredients), and the bottle being secretively replaced, so Masson definitely did not know it was poisoned. For the record, I dont think Henriette would actually like to see Philippe die, but she would like to be shot of him. I realise that you are not a fan of the historical figure but I am speaking strictly of the character. He cares for her, but anytime he has to choose between Chevalier and her, he always choose the former. Not long to go now, and we are with Marchal, who lies in bed, wakes suddenly and touches his stomach wound, which bleeds through the bandage. hes a critic, but there is another who has been hidden before us. Once again, Louis behaviour, as reported here, is uncharacteristic. (Historical note: mistresses were in competition with each other all the time, poison was effective and the murderer didnt have to deal with the messiness. Thanks for reading! Menu. There was no indication of poisoning, so death was attributed to cholera morbus caused by corrupt and boiling bile, which had led to gangrene in the entrails and other parts of the lower abdomen. Were just waiting for it to take root., Now we are outside in an antechamber again, where Colbert is frantic that Henriette must be moved, that she cannot be treated in the Kings chamber. Montcourt pauses its clear he recognises Rohans voice. She also miscarries a baby that was either her husband Philippe's or the King's, no one is sure. Marchal picks up the dropped knife and lunges and he and Montcourt trade a few blows, with Marchal blocking then delivering a punch. The fact that she doesnt particularly want to anyway (to say no, that is) is because she is deeply in love with Louis and always has been and because her husband makes zero effort to endear himself to her. Philippe replies, almost resignedly: Im not asking for permission. My apartment has no pisspot and I do hate to urinate in the stairwells. The Chevalier: Never stopped you before. (teeheehee) They are interrupted by the Duc de Cassel (who is looking even rougher and more filthy than usual. She causes her father distress, embarasssment, hurt. At a Mass said for her soul, Bishop Bossuet conveyed the sense of shock at her sudden death: Oh, disastrous night; oh, dreadful night, in which resounded like a clap of thunder the unbelievable words Madame is dying Madame is dead!. Yep. She later dies in her bed. I know times and attitudes were different then, but a person violated still feels violated, whether they are allowed to acknowledge it or not. Right. Philippe, despite their mutual loathing, was upset and distraught, so suspicion then fell to the absent Chevalier de Lorraine, who at the time was still in exile in Rome. Philippe of course blames Louis for Henriette's poisoning as he was the one who sent Henriette as an ambassador abroad even though everyone begged him not to. The best visual of the whole episode. However, lets assume they are both equally dire sins. Ive found some interesting, unedited sources about him and I hope to write very soon a book to make some justice to this very, very mistreated character. We now see Philippe asleep. You sound worse than Montespan and de Clermont sparring over the card-tables! Get him out! Henriette cries. Im going to be stalking these recaps in the arduous wait for season two. The first time we see Philippe is with his lover. Montcourt is stabbed by Louis XIV while facing off with him and Fabien Marchal. In the days when it was only you who /truly/ had my back. We defended our position from the Spanish all morning and in honour of your distinguished service. No, of course she doesnt. But that was the thinking of the time. Only Versailles is now about as sexy as Robot Wars. Henriette is restrained by Philippe, the Queen and Bontemps, and Philippe is clearly suffering as he listens to his wife muffling her screams.