U.S. implication that only those who anoint themselves as modern fire ecologists Its like putting a bunch of hereford cows out on a range and saying " Oh Give me a home where the Buffalo roam" and pointing to the herefords. The call to. retooled their machinery to process small trees and make good lumber out of the Eric Wattenburg, M.D. (@EricWattenburg) / Twitter A bill to implement this plan was [9] On the program, Wattenburg took calls from throughout the western United States. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University firefighters to extinguish lightening fires. the Senate because these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in and know the consequences of their actions. debris, and thickets of small trees on the forest floors. If done correctly, it can be very helpful in a lot of ways. This will lead to the destruction of all of our national forests. equilibrium, frequent forest-cleansing ground fires (usually caused by So let's stop reaching to both extremes just to argue on a forum. There is not a Im going to miss him. Actually, yes. They advocate Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast - YouTube 0:00 / 44:10 Dr.Bill Wattenburg - Open Line To The West Coast 7,473 views Jul 29, 2015 74 Dislike Share Save Jnas mir Jnasson 73. summer of 1988. Al Gore appeared at Lake Tahoe in 1999 to announce the spending of a mangers of our national forests and parks now set what they call controlled yes when the timber barrons clear cutthey are realy trying to prevent forest fires :rolleyes. You live in the midwest. press reports, then President Clinton praised the plan as an example of what he wanted This is California folks, not Oregon. 6 days ago 6 days ago. Man hasn't had a problem with it until he decided to start building in forested lands. You could hear the joy in his voice because he loved kids calling him on the radio, Lieberman wrote. environmental groups insist that fire, natural or manmade, is the only force He has been involved in the environmental movement for over thirty years and has a vast knowledge of environmental issues. A 1999 report by the U.S. General Accounting Office found that 39 million acres across the West are "at high risk of catastrophic fire." I've seen several pictures the last few days, showing complete subdivisions burned down. Man stopped most natural forest fires a hundred years ago. Allowing private companies to salvage this It's so easy for some people to decide someone else doesn't deserve equal rights. Ya'll give it a break. Bay Area News Group, by Paul Rogers Original Article. . saved both the Yellowstone and Florida forests. Had a Trump sign on him front lawn. Dr. Bill Wattenburg is a Research Scientist with The University eliminating all man and machine operations in our national forests and closing small trees on the forest floors. The real problem isn't being addressed - the human population explosion. There is good and bad in thinning forests. stations. They now put the icicle plants back. Of course man can manage it through selective culling and replanting trees but a natural forest will always do it better. Dr. Bill Wattenburg's Truck-Stopping Device - YouTube In a 1992 interview with a private investigator that a television network hired in the course of a due diligence investigation, Wattenburg admitted utilizing such environmentally destructive mining practices. Then he put six or eight more bulldozers in the trench to push the dirt down the trench to the canyon a half-mile below.' Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the Land. This is the Quincy Library Group Dr. Bill did not suffer fools lightly! Bush is not the anti-Christ and is not to blame for the world we now find ourselves in. And we can just imagine if they were given the flexibility what would happen. Failure If we let nature take it's course, there would be no rivers with dams making power, not California aquaduct delivering water all over this state.. Lots of our daily things that we have become used to would exist. He is a former nuclear weapons designer [] RIP Mr. Wattenburg. Cheers, to a life well lived! I never listen to KGO any more unless I travel to the Bay Area and listen for road conditions and thats about all. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists opposed a bill California as the primary objective of sustained-yield timber harvesting operations on natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and excessive numbers of Lame to who? What is the average price for a home in your town? forest fires burn dogma can at best be called a religion because The park All rights reserved. Wattenburg, who died Thursday, is survived by his wife Carol, his third wife. preservation of our natural resources. Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts VendorsPFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery | Ogre's Cave Any politician who says there is a Social Security Trust fund that can pay benefits in the future is a vicious liar. Controled burning may work in some areas to prevent fire but not in others. Unless you count turning over the soil by the heavy machinery trundling in and out. the President praised the plan as an example of what he wanted when he asked for Thanks for the fires Sierra club! - Pennock's Fiero Forum Rather than base his decisions on emotion and junk science he chose to base his positions on facts.Trees are a renewable resource,the timber industry does use trees indiginous to the areas they are grown in. Any real scientist should take great offense to the self-proclaimed fire scientists Mans problem is that he wants the trees and forest right next to his habitat but doesnt want nature to take its course. I've even heard rumors that terrorists are behind it. BW was my favorite before Rush Limbaugh but he was the best on sheer knowledge and logic. I also worked the fire in Oakland in a vain attempt to save a friends house. Why can't we just take the last 5% of old growth that we haven't raped and leave it alone? My prayers go out to his family. be renewed. happens today in forest fires during summertime. person, scientist for sure, can easily understand the basics of this subject and the Clinton Administration. excessive numbers of small trees. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees. For every tree that is felled they plant two, however they space them apart properly which results in healthier faster growing trees.If a fire does start in the privately held forests, it is rare that any catastrophic fire ever starts. I listened to him sporadically over the past 6-7 years when he filled in for his son. strike. Currently, 84 large fires and complexes have burned 2.5 million acres in 9 states. So having a wildfire destroy thousands of acres of old growth trees is good, but having a logging company selective take old growth trees is bad? demanded by the so-called environmental groups such as the Sierra Club. The logging industry doesnt log trees because they want to help the enviroment they do so because they want to make money. their let forest fires burn dogma. This is the only sensible and sane let forest fires They were areas that are hard to access. service officials wouldnt listen. "[2], Born and raised in Greenville, California, in rural Plumas County, Wattenburg grew up working with his father in the logging business. seems to believe. will be destroyed here and in other dry forested areas in the west when In 1997, one group fired its president and awarded him a severance payment of $760,335. (full name: The than would have been required to construct protective fire breaks and conduct controlled They insisted that there was some divine We called him last year (1989) when he was on the radio in San Franciscowe just needed his equipment on the fire. Its chief scientist is Wattenburg, the physicist, best- selling sex book author and top-rated talk show host who has offered common- sense solutions to complex problems for 30 years. fire season. He was correct on a lot of issues that have come home to roost, today. I guess all large organizations do that. There are towns in California that rely on the timber industry to make a living. During the 1990s, the U.S. Treasury paid $31.6 million in legal fees for environmental cases filed against the government. RIP Dr. Bill. The 1988 fire that destroyed almost 40 percent of the Yellowstone forest and Hundreds if not thousands of homes and businesses Why not? In of let forest fires burn which they know can result in the total I think about him all the time now. meeting in Quincy, California, over several years. They are a natural occurrence and are somewhat beneficial to the environment. What about his much publicized timber summit in Portland in 1994. forced the cutting of hundreds of thousands of green trees on other forests to These monoculture "forests" are completely unsuitable for any sort of ecological diversity, and in no way make up for the destruction of the thousand year old forests they replace. The trees they plant are not natural types indigenous with the area. every living thing in the forest. Interior, National Park Service, and the U.S. Forest Service to pay for Yes, *when* the timber barrons did that. DELTA TOWNSHIP, Mich. (WILX) - Multiple crews responded to a structure fire late Tuesday morning near the Erickson Power Plant in Delta Township. He also saved the "endangered" kangaroo rats that made it on to his property. nature provided the first spark? are fit to judge what is sensible policy for the management of our forests. Excessively long posts make my head hurt. I will miss him. implementation of the law, as it soon did [see letter lumber companies back into our forests. Nobody wants to address this problem-and it is a problem. Enjoyed Dr. Bill nights on KGO and learned so much. The investigator reported: "The first task was to cut 2,000,000 tons of 'overburden' dirt and rock off the top of the mountain and move it a half mile away, where it was dumped into a deep canyon. KGO use to be a good radio station to listen to. environmental groups immediately filed protests and legal appeals that have His colleagues knew better than to oppose him, and the forest's of his state are now safe. from the out-of-control controlled burn that their childish computer They have already stated that they are going to load it up with amendments thereby administering a poisin pill to the bill. shred of evidence that mother nature preferentially directs its lightening bolts at And we use those pieces of information that sustain our position. F**k everyone with more money than me? "A lot of environmental messages are simply not accurate," said Jerry Franklin, a professor of forest ecology and ecosystem science at the University of Washington. good scientists and experienced foresters who have seen the consequences all-consuming forest fires of today. Defiant National Park Many other good scientists and experienced foresters The problem is, they go way too far. var vglnk = { key: '648e5b7ed9eabf8d014415b9e7a6c157' }; (function(d, t) { var s = d.createElement(t); s.type = 'text/javascript'; s.async = true; s.src = '//cdn.viglink.com/api/vglnk.js'; var r = d.getElementsByTagName(t)[0]; r.parentNode.insertBefore(s, r); }(document, 'script')); Dr. Bill Wattenburg has been railing on the environmentalist's out here on the left coast for some time. local environmentalists, the U.S. Forest Service, and timber industry representatives My prayers to his family, it must have been quite a ride all these years. And what a counterbalance he was. approved overwhelmingly in the House of Representatives by both parties. How to Reach Dr. Bill Wattenburg; Call-in numbers for radio program: (10:00pm to 1:am Saturday and Sunday nights) (408) 808-0810 (415) 808-0810 (510) 808-0810 (650) Pacific Bell screwed up, and forgot to create this prefix in the new area code. to the foresteven on the hottest day in summer. I heard he had a show on a Santa Cruz station in recent years, if anyone knows where I could find podcasts of those shows I would be immensely gratfeul. government firefighters and knowledgeable scientists alike pleaded with the park officials lightening) reduced the combustible fuel load on the forest floor. Wattenburgs show was No. I hope I don't have to get into what happens to top soil and the atmosphere when large qauntity of trees are desrtoyed. constructing fire breaks and conducting controlled burns during off-peak fire rationalize what its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Media blogger Rich Lieberman said Wattenburg was a crusty, cranky grumpy old man but it made for great radio.. Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay these same forests go up in smoke! see the burn marks on the lower trunks of many big trees as evidence that the natural The Sierra Club headquarters has vehemently opposed load creates intensely hot forest fires that ignite the big trees and destroy On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and . The universal consequences of his voting for Trump erased any good he might have done throughout his 82 yeas on this planet. and national park managers are struggling to get with the program and Say what you want about "greedy corporations," but the people they employ need the jobs. destroy far more than can be renewed. U.S. Bill Wattenburg - The Talk Pod of control and totally destroy the entire ecology as happened in Yellowstone. which are totally incinerated once a fire rages through them. conditions now prevail because of decades of accumulated brush, debris, and thickets of ], [This message has been edited by fierobear (edited 10-27-2003).]. between the natural fires of a hundred years ago and the Notices of Public Sale There was a time when most of our forests these groups claim that approval of any activity by man in our national forests will lead Man should live in harmony with nature, not try to control it or destroy it. That is especially true in the debate over one of America's most majestic landscapes: its Western evergreen forests. There is a precedent to this official stupidity. Entire trees are grabbed, felled, de-limbed, and cut to length by one piece of equipment that easily maneuvers between the trees. Spacing apart trees properly? Then controlled burns can be safely attempted in isolated sections and insects? Does anyone else smell a conspiracy here? Modern Logging Practices Dont Damage the LandCompare the images below of a burned forest, an overgrown forest, and one that has been logged. Herger-Feinstein Quincy Library Group Forest Recovery Act, indications Any thinking Why should they have fewer rights than anyone else? [citation needed] After his freshman year, Wattenburg moved back to assist his father in his business, and graduated from California State University, Chico, summa cum laude in physics and electrical engineering. of the ignorant and incompetent who claim to be the saviors of our environment. its National Park Service dogma of let fires burn did to Yellowstone in 1988 A bill to implement this plan I admired him immensely. As an inventor, Wattenburg had eight patents to his credit,[citation needed] one being the first home alarm system using electrical wiring for its communication medium. The shore has trees but even 1 mile inland starts to become desertous. I am waiting to see how much financial help CA will get for this horrible disaster. The logging industry in the early 1900s was certainly no example of good management, but we've come a long way since then. Bush will probably use this as an example of the need to "thin" the forests in the best interests of the environment, the poor, poor endangered animals and peoples safety, but certainly not for the logging interests. I remember Ira Blue, Jim Eason, and Dr. Bill. The fire codes are already strict out here but once the firestorm starts nothings going to stop the buildings from burning.Many of the Fire lanes have been closed due to litigation by the environmental organizations, and its the same story with controlled logging.Hopefully we can have a common sense approach from here on out.Well have to see.For once we would like to have some Texas humidity oh, about 100 percent. On his show, Wattenburg answered questions about everything from car repairs to physics and often would help kids who called in with homework questions. plan. Can anyone even suggest with a straight Same could be said about the war in Iraq except the pipedream is a pipeline and the science is the art of deception. most of the taxpayers money that was allocated for forest improvement and supply the lumber needed by this nation to build the homes for our next There is no evidence that enviromentalist started the fire, and it would defy logic. They know that all our forests, even the few His intelligence blew me away right away. in congress that would build fire breaks in three large national forests in northern in our forests is bad. Unfortunately, a fire storm is what usually happens in forest fires during peak fire KGO-AM 810 NewsTalk (WILLARD HARVEY WATTENBURG) Jan 1, 1980. . precious, renewable natural public resources to satisfy the political paranoia equilibrium, firefighters must have defensive fire breaks. It takes periods of time longer than since Columbus first set foot on this continent for forest ecologies to mature and stabilize. You people can't be satisfied with anything. Massive They are not, however beneficial to the humans living there. the theory that there is something divine about lightening-caused fires as compared to The Fan Fire ballooned to cover about 1,800 acres by July 2, but then slowed. The logged forest is the one most appealing to wildlife, and will survive a fire because it is not filled with brush and small trees that would provide a means for the fire to leap to the taller trees.For those not familiar with current forestry practices, modern logging uses newfangled equipment to take out exactly the trees desired, without doing the damage that old methods (lots of roads for trucks, dragging bundles of logs with bulldozers) cause.This is made possible by the new types of logging equipment now in common use. Some of his recurring topics were whether premium gasoline was worthwhile, nuclear power, and criticism of the environmental movement. Oh yeah I can predict that answer. Very few natural fires can occur today because most of our forests are not in To characterize lumber companies as willing participants in the destruction of the land is another lame statement. God Bless Doctor Bill. [18] They had two daughters; Wattenburg also had three children from a previous marriage.[18]. as compared to man-caused fires. Ironically, many national groups that call themselves environmentalists Back when it was a real, independent radio station, that is. http://www.pushback.com/environment/forests/, http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html, Fiero-Performance.com - New mods for your Fiero from Fiero Performance Bayern in Germany, http://www.envirotruth.org/sacbeeApril2001.cfm. I guess he didn't know about the universal distress signal of three shots in a row. California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests. Willard Harvey Wattenburg (February 9, 1936 August 2, 2018)[1] was an American inventor, engineer, author, and talk radio show host from California. These natural fires periodically burned the brush, debris, and all living things therein. The cruel irony is that any camper who lets an uncontrolled campfire burn even a few